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Post subject: Re: What is this "Live Plan" I'm reading about?
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:11 am

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Reply to http://www.link-assistant.com/seo-talk/rank-tracker-stops-working-when-live-plan-ends-t2326.html

Hi,

don't get me wrong, I like the product, just bought the 24 month liveplan.
All I was saying that with a product that great, I don't think misleading statements like "Enjoy free functionality updates for LIFE." are necessary. I think the price is fair, just was negatively suprised by how it was communicated.

Have a good weekend!


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Post subject: Re: What is this "Live Plan" I'm reading about?
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:09 am

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personaly i think it is outrageous that you have sold me a piece of software without making it clear that after 6 months i wil not be able to use it without continuing to pay you more money.

i also think it is outrageous that you would palm me off with a rubbish cut n paste reply and lock my thread to shut me down.

i have read the other threads but i did not know i have to go trawling though this forum to find out this infomation before i bought the product. You have conned me basicly, you did not make it clear that i would have to pay continualy i do not want to have to. its simply not worth it for the one website i run.

why bother to state the free for a year updates? if the live plan only last 6 months and then the software bricks?

i demand that you alow me to use the product that i have paid for and i do not want the live plan. i dont need it.

day light robbery, oh and dont lock my thread untill i am satified i have an answer than i am happy with.


We state clearly that the Live! Plan updates are necessary for gathering data from the search engines:

"Without Live! Plan subscription the software is not getting algo updates and will not gather relevant data" ( http://www.link-assistant.com/buy.html#first )

Moreover the purchase confirmation e-mail contained in the first paragraph:

"Congratulations on purchasing SEO PowerSuite Professional!
As our customer, you are eligible for FREE bug fixes for life, a 6
months subscription to the SEO PowerSuite Professional Live! Plan, plus
FREE Customer Support Service to answer any SEO PowerSuite-related
request you might have."

There are links on our site telling you what Live! Plan subscription is and why we need to charge for it:

http://www.link-assistant.com/live-plan.html

Moreover the tuning subscriptions are typical for any major SEO software provider and one might say they also do not state it clearly:

http://www.ibusinesspromoter.com/order/pricing-u.htm ("Search Technology Updates" below)

http://www.webceo.com/pricing/index.htm ("search engine pulse service")

As you can see from our pricing page ( http://www.link-assistant.com/prices.html , direct link to it from our homepage) the current price/features ratio is better with us than with other SEO software providers.

We understand this came as a surprise but this is really the way we've been selling software since April 2007 and Live! Plan subscription is mentioned all over our site. You could create a ticket at www.link-assistant.com/support and we could figure out a special deal for you.

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Post subject: Re: What is this "Live Plan" I'm reading about?
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:19 pm

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excalty where does it say that if i dont subscribe to live plan i can no longer use the product at all?

sending a confirmation email AFTER I BUY stating a cryptic message about a 6 month live plan does not tel me this.

i think i deserve some partial refund here.

please can you provide me with your trading address?

thankyou.


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Post subject: Re: What is this "Live Plan" I'm reading about?
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:31 pm

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If you ever wanted an example of how NOT to run a business and how NOT to treat your customers this is the PERFECT example.

I bought the product 6 months ago, I have been going through the apps one by one and making changes and checking etc.
Now after 6 months the company want to bust my balls again, live update plan for all products - 180 dollars (that is with a big discount) but it is still near 75% of the cost of what I paid for the SEO powersuite.

At least if I buy an AntiVirus product - they give me updates for 1 year (and their AV programs / definition files are updated everyday)


The problem you have is that no one will ever trust you again - maybe thats ok, maybe you are not in it for the long term - you just want to make as much money as quickly as possible and then disappear.


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Post subject: Re: What is this "Live Plan" I'm reading about?
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:21 pm

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Folks,

i am only a user of this software, i try to do business in the internet.
We all will earn money with this business.

This software is helping us (me) a lot in keeping good listings in SE.
Keeping this software actual is costing money, that is to be payed by
us as customers.

Nothing is for free.

Ask your self: is this software costing more money as you earn with internet business or not....

Please stop this endless discussions
(remind i am NOT related to the LA Team, search for the forum and you will find, that i have also discussions with LA Team, but not more in this matter

Keep the flow

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Post subject: Re: What is this "Live Plan" I'm reading about?
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:00 am

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@wylie

wylie wrote:
excalty where does it say that if i dont subscribe to live plan i can no longer use the product at all?


Actually it's stated right on the order page http://www.link-assistant.com/buy.html#first

"* Product enhancements covered by the SEO PowerSuite Live! Plan are offered free for 6 months since the date of purchase. When this period expires, these search engine related updates are offered on a paid basis. Without Live! Plan subscription the software is not getting algo updates and will not gather relevant data."

wylie wrote:
i think i deserve some partial refund here.

please can you provide me with your trading address?


Please, contact our support team with your concerns. I'm sure we'll be able to work something out.

@voodoo1967

voodoo1967 wrote:
The problem you have is that no one will ever trust you again - maybe thats ok, maybe you are not in it for the long term - you just want to make as much money as quickly as possible and then disappear.


We've been in the business for over 5 years and intend to stay here much longer. We're sorry if we mislead you somewhere, I assure you this wasn't intentional.

We always listen to all the criticism and feedback we get from the fine folks at this forum and via other channels and we take it all seriously. The discussion of the Live! Plan issue has been a long one and we're ready to continue it till everyone is satisfied. Just let's forward it into a more constructive direction and be polite to each other, and we'll work it out.

@hollies

Many thanks for your support. We really appreciate it. It's great to see that you understand how much work and effort goes into our products and that's one of the things that keep us going. Thanks!

@scroozlewis

scroozlewis wrote:
The pricing must have changed significantly recently. Unless a license key is entered, the pricing isn’t shown anymore is what I noticed. Confirming those numbers would be a good idea.


I wonder what gave you that impression? There haven't been any changes to the pricing recently. The prices did change about a year ago when they got a lot lower and they have stayed at that level ever since. You can check it here

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Post subject: Re: What is this "Live Plan" I'm reading about?
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:31 am

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I think what people are objecting to here is that they are paying a lot of money for software and then feel like they are being blackmailed into spending more money otherwise they have completely wasted their initial investment.

When I purchased the software I believed that it would work in a similar fashion to antivirus software...you can pay for future updates, but if you didn't then the software would still work, though there might be problems/errors and the ranks might be 'off' slightly.

What you are selling is basically not a software package...you are selling a licence to a product which happens to have an extremely high price tag for the first six months. As a customer, you receive nothing extra for that initial investment price as it stops working after 6 months...it's an extortionate price for a six month licence.

If I had realised that everything would stop when the live plan ended and I would not be able to use the software at all there is no way I would have purchased the entire suite. I would have purchased rank tracker on it's own and been happy to pay the live plan subscription for it. Now I feel extremely cheated.

Personally I would like to see one of two things...either allow the software to work with the algorithms it currently has at the end of the live plan, and let the user know that some of the details might be out of date.
Or
I would like a refund for everything bar the rank tracker and I will purchase a live plan for that.

I think that something that ought to be considered is that we are all in the SEO game here, and if people start getting fed up with a company and start complaining there are going to be a lot of unhappy customers saying such on their websites and those websites are all going to be optimized using some sort of software. The best way to get customers is word-of-mouth and you can guarantee that's going to be the fastest way to lose potential customers too :(

If you are going to follow the licence plan that you are currently running then you need to only charge the licence fee for the first 6 months too, not the hundreds of dollars that leads you to believing you are actually 'buying' something.

One other thing to consider....a lot of people on the Internet do stuff for free. I'm not saying you have to give people something for nothing, but that is the way a lot of companies do business...give people something and allow them to 'donate' what they think it's worth. (We have a restaurant near us that works on the same principal and the manager says they rake it in...people pay far more because they have a conscience than they would if there were a bill presented to them)...just somthing to think about. I pay several companies a yearly subscription even though I don't have to, just because I want them to succeed and keep doing business...and I know I am not the only one.


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Post subject: Re: What is this "Live Plan" I'm reading about?
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:53 am

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Another question for you....

why are the prices different for the enterprise and professional versions of the live plans? Comparing the different features of the rank tracker versions they only seem to be concerned with reporting, therefore surely there are no differences in the search engine algorithm changes between the professional and enterprise, it's just how the different versions deal with the data collected? So, why the differing prices? Is this just to get more 'coffee money'?

Can you tell I'm angry about all this!?!


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Post subject: Re: What is this "Live Plan" I'm reading about?
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:44 am

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Post subject: Re: RankTracker usable without the LivePlan?
PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 2:38 pm
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lbruce wrote:
I certainly do hope and expect that you will remove this limitation, as you have publicaly informed us you will


Yes, we will, within two months at most, working on that. Users will have a choice to stay without updates at the risk of getting altered data from SEs that have changed their algorithms so far, but it won't be blocked.



Just found this post on another board in the forum dated 7th May 2009 saying 'within 2 months users will have a choice to stay without updates'.

Can you give us a progress report please?


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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:35 am

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bump...

...is anyone going to answer?


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